From behind the gun....
The Drive team spoke to a person who was a hostage taker a few years ago.
With the eyes of the world focusing on Kenya and the horrors as they unfold in the shopping mall attack, the Drive team spoke to a few victims of various attacks ranging from riots to entire cities going crazy...
And then something different happened.
A caller spoke to the team from the other side of the gun.
A hostage taker.
Take a listen to the fascinating story of a man who was at the centre of a police hostage situation.